- I saw the video which was put up by Malaysiakini on which showed the rowdy and barbaric actions by some people that had encroached a private event in Jalan Kebun Klang. No matter how distasteful the program may be and no matter how one disagree with ABU, it is wrong for anyone to take such a provocative action. I read the Selangor CPO short press release. I believe he had downplayed the issue to avoid people from speculating further on the matter. Unfortunately, his short press release did not contain and any reassuring statement that the police would act impartially and be fair to all parties. The missing element of his press release is further angering the people and led to further speculation.
- I saw the video. It clearly shows that a private event was being held. It also shows the disgrace action of some Malays wearing BN t-shirts taking laws into their own hands. There evidence is on YouTube. The picture of the perpetrators can be seen clearly. It should not be difficult for the police to act. Evidence is available on silver platter. It is my expectation that the police to take a decisive action. Any failure on the part of the Selangor police would lead to unnecessary reaction which would further damage the government reputation.
- I quote Haris Ibrahim in his post where said, “Rest assured, we will be well prepared for any lawlessness at our forthcoming ceramah”. I feel that based on the initial reaction of the RMP, his statement is justified. In fact everyman deserves to protect themselves when threatened. It is only natural. Going by the situation, if the police fail to react and if there is another similar commotion elsewhere, I expect serious confrontation and consequences. If that happens, then no one other than police should take the blame.
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Dear Dr,
First of all thank you for these videos… i found it helpful in tryin to figure out what had happened…. I am an UMNO member and i do not believe these imbeciles fully reflect the nature of a majority of UMNO malays.But i also belive that these people should be punished regardless of political affiliations. Whether or not it was a supposedly “PR conspiracy” or an “UMNO racial assault” for me is not important. These people have committed a crime against law and must be punished…. regardless of the fact that i disagree with ABU and Hindraf, no man/women (and children for gods sake) should ever be subject to that kind of barbarism…
To the people who were there at the time these events took place… i pray that one day you will forgive and forget…. because no one deserves to live with this nightmare….
Dear Hanafee
I agree with you. I believe there are many level headed UMNO members like you out there. I am glad that the police has acted accordingly
Dear Doc,
After wide public knowledge, Polis Raja Di Malaysia has to “act”. PRDM has always acted. Part of their job description is to act.
What the Rakyat wants is prosecution and judgement.
Dah biasalah dengan sandiwara.
Dear Doc,
I see that you put a banner of “stop censorship”. I think this is most apt. I was reading faekah’s statement and was appalled to see a mindset of banning Ibrahim Ali to enter Selangor: actually banishing/banning him from Selangor!!. Goodness!!. Selangor now wants to take possible legal action against Ibrahim just because he made unacceptable comment against PR on the post of Islamic Religious Affair. Ridiculous. It doesn’t after how appalling this IA is but you cannot go that low.
Its the same mindset of asking the non-malays to balik to other countries just because of disagreement. Its like this stupid “baharom” trying to deny people to assemble and of free speech.
Why must every time we disagree we ban censor and prevent people from airing their views? We must we deny them to express. Why can’t we tolerate contrarion views. We have this attitude that If the view is siding us we proceed (notwithstanding untrue) but if against us we ban or censor them. We see this useless mindset even among us in the like of looes and Abdul I.
Can we be consistent tak and be principled? We allow people to air and have views on whatever they like unless blatantly and insiduously defamatory. If its untrue we just rebut. If we don’t like we counter it. We tell them not to lie and propagate falsehood. We may dislike people telling lies or give contrary views but for goodness sake the way to go about this is not to ban censor or prevent like the MSM, baharom, faekah TMI and other blogs are doing and suggesting, but to counter the them with points and facts.
And lets apply this across the board whether for or against BN or PR. It doesn’t matter who.
Dear Ellese…
There are a lot of comments with questionable assumptions and hearsay. It is understandable because most readers here have a liking for comments with an anti-establishment tone. It is up to us to be objective and selective which comments are thrashy or otherwise. Personally, I don’t give a dayum for comments which are egoistic and personally prejudice. But I still like meek’s comment… satirical though but I find it stimulating and put a
on my face. I miss Sabahan 18′s comment too which I think deserves a literary award.
Meek??? You mean balasi??? That’s funny man. Tot he wouldn’t match your character.
You never know. To each his own.
Ps. Doc, just need a minor help. Ur censorship ban somehow on my mobile appear at the cOmmentary box and partially blocking some words. Do you know of a remedy?
No.. the only way is to remove it
I’m that bad ,Ellese..?
It’s just plain law of natural animal behaviour…,we can only be humans if at all we need to be. We can also be worst then animals.
Sad… Baharum, will have to look up his shoulders for the rest of his life.
Mum use to say ..” if only we (humans) have no mouths and limbs to act….,even a stray dog can lead us a stray “.
Once again, the RMP has reacted positively. Case has been investigated. Several people detained, one arrest made and the RMP are looking for more. We can see that public pressure does helps in a certain way..
Doc,
RMP….can act….., but Najib’s 1Malaysia….goes to the Bin…!
Thank, god…..Selangor will still be with PR after all this. Just like how a temple was demolish during depavali in 2007, and the aftermath …..we will see again in PRU 13.
People easyly forget candies…., they fail to forget the smell of shit.
I agree that strong action must be taken against the hooligans! I do hope the illegal organisation had made the necessary police report.
I however do caution to jumping to conclusion.
Just because someone wears the a t-shirt with some logo, doesn’t necessarily mean such person was representing the organisation. Otherwise, just imagine had the hooligans were wearing Liverpool FC T-shirt, we all be accusing Liverpool being behind the provocation.
BTW, I have nothing against Liverpool FC!
I definitely see someone wearing the Malaysian football team’s away jersey!
So definitely, this is the work of FAM!!!
Hahahahaha.
aha
Are you saying it was done by the supporters of kedah (was it kelantan…not sure) football team?
Dr,
Hmmm. That’s a thought! Because it is Kelantan jersey, there is a Kelantanese conspiracy! Therefore using some commentators line of thinking, Nik Aziz is therefore involved!
Hahahahaha
Dear observer
No la.. Nik Aziz merely mentioned, Hadi Awang thought about it and gave the directives, State PAS leadership further evaluated it and instruct PAS Jalan Kebun to gather members. In the meantime FA Kelantan sponsored the T-shirt
Wow,
It rings a bell like the COW HEAD scandal. The HM moots it and some asses in Shah Alam plays to it.
Next day….the idiot HM…., fete’s them for breakfast in Putrajaya.
Now we have some Donkey herd’s ….tak ada Tuan yang punya.
“I do hope the illegal organisation had made the necessary police report”.
Simply referring to Hindraf as an illegal organisation just shows your mentality…
Hindraf was declared illegal by the Home Ministry because it was a political problem to Barisan Nasional. There is zero evidence Hindraf has ever injured or threatened injury or violence to anyone.
kitty,
Therefore my statement that it is an illegal organisation is more factual and accurate as compared to some commentators who attribute a political party being involved simply on a T-shirt a single hooligan was wearing.
Doesn’t the latter implication shows the mentality of some commentators.
Please understand that I don’t condone the acts of these hooligans.
I also don’t condone statements made by people who think through their asses instead of their head. Are you one of those people?
Observer,
I have to disagree with you calling any organisation illegal. By putting the word “illegal” what are you trying to imply?
Anybody can create any organisation for that matter. I can even have an organisation called “Cowgate Observer”, do you have any problem with that name?
Wave,
You can call it whatever you like even “Think Through Their Asses Political Analyst” but if the law require you to be registered and you don’t register, till kingdom come it will never be a legal organisation.
So your “Cowgate Observer” organisation, is it required to be registered or not?
Observer,
Please observe on what we wrote not on your ass please.
The word “illegal” is improper. You are right that Hishammuddin was thinking through his ass. The term illegal was used for a political reason not an academic statement. That is to put people on fear to be associated with any illegal activities or illegal organisation (which implies with immoral activities or against the law or crime, eg. mafia). Is that your implication, Observer?
The proper word is “registered” organisation or “unregistered” organisation. People can choose whether to register or not. Sometimes, it is better to get organisation registered but at times it is not necessary. Depending on the needs. Branding “illegal” is uncalled for and it sounds ridiculous especially from Hishammuddin our Home Minister. Hishammuddin made another blunder by calling Bersih 2.0 illegal too. It is a tactical political move that came from the ass of a political analyst.
It seem that you did not care an ass over the questions or our concern of using the word “illegal”.
The organisation “Cowgate Observer”, does it concern you whether we want to register it or not? If we do not register, you want to make a polis report? Another question, do you have any problem with the name?
I hope, I clarifies what UMNO “Think Through Their Asses Political Analyst” gets from calling this illegal, that illegal and whatever at their convenient is called illegal.
Wave,
Hindraf has just distanced themselves from the ABU gathering. I am sure I saw scores of Hindraf clad T-shirts. So the gathering was not sanctioned by Hindraf.
I am sure under some law, people who form entities that is like societies, there is a requirement for registration and failure to do so, the law would label that society as an illegal society.
If you decide to form a society, you’d better register it otherwise it would be considered as an illegal entity.
Don’t you believe in the rule of law or do you just believe in the rule of Anwar?
I am curious, why do you think I am associated with UMNO. I suppose it just your screwed up logic.
Observer,
Quote: “I am sure under some law, people who form entities that is like societies, there is a requirement for registration and failure to do so, the law would label that society as an illegal society.
If you decide to form a society, you’d better register it otherwise it would be considered as an illegal entity.”
>>Already reply you. Please observe and read again on the above.
Quote: “Don’t you believe in the rule of law or do you just believe in the rule of Anwar?”
>> It has nothing to do with Anwar, it is Hishammuddin. As again, already told you.
Quote: “I am curious, why do you think I am associated with UMNO. I suppose it just your screwed up logic.”
>> Please show prove. It is your screw up logic that I am addressing.
Wave,
If the law says it is illegal, Wave says it is legal. Hmmm, it is not even Rule of Anwar it is actually Rule of Wave33!!
General principle, those who alleges must proof. Of course under Wave33 Logic that doesn’t apply. So if I were to call you a “pig” (not that I am calling you that animal), do I have the right to demand from you to proof to me that you are not a “pig”. Surely not?
Observer,
Very rude…bro..!
Kitty…was just trying to put certain things ….the way it should be potrayed…you miss the point …but jumped the gun.
“Just because someone wears the a t-shirt with some logo, doesn’t necessarily mean such person was representing the organisation.”
Of course you are right and i believe many here agree with you. We were just wondering why they choose to were t-shirt with that logo while doing thuggery stunt, what so special about that logo?
HY,
Nothing special I suppose.
In fact just the other day, I saw a road sweeper wearing a blue T-Shirt with a political logo.
Is there some major conspiracy going on even down to the road sweeper level??
I just shudder to think that.
Must be lo
Doc,
It just boils down to t-shirt free…,you bagi..saya pakai. dah haput I buang. No sentiments attach.
But the guys in the video…were high on drugs…,they say Eramin 5.
What nonsense is this, asking the police to investigate the ABU-Hindraf gathering being disrupted by a mob alleged to be from the UMNO side. The people should be DEMANDING answers from the the police,as to WHY NO ACTION WAS TAKEN AGAINST THIS MOB??? The members of the mob can easily be identified in the video taken at the scene. The police have proved numerous times that they are not impartial in their actions and have never acted fairly against the aggrieved parties, be it citizens in their private capacity or their political parties . The police have always been seen to take sides of the ruling elites. May the police be reminded that they are paid salaries from the ‘rakyat’s’ taxes. They are sitting in their comfortable offices maintained by the rakyat. They are provided logistics of the world class out of the rakyat’s taxes. If UMNO wants to employ their own police force then they should register a company and run the ‘Polis Bantuan’ UMNO and the rakyat wouldn’t mind.
It’s a shame on the police elites who condone these types of mobs against political parties or any citizen gatherings against the govt. The Selangor CPO is answerable to the rakyat for his blunder. He is answerable to the state executive who happens to be the MENTERI BESAR on security issues. As, I understand, the police are daily going through the ‘blogs’ and other news items on the net, to nab offenders who OFFEND THE LAW. Are they blind to such clear violations. Are they only programmed to detect activities or comments against the UMNO govt only. Of late , we see many Malaysians who comment on blogs or facebook face the wrath of the police, even though it’s an imagination of the writer. Govts are elected by the people so that they can provide Justice, security, and other social obligations to them. But, it looks like the UMNO/BN govt has FAILED in this aspect. What does a citizen do to get his Justice if it’s not guaranteed by the govt ? Naturally, he will be forced to take the law into his hands. Thus far, this has not happened in Malaysia. I appeal to the govt of the day to make sure the police act professionally and are not SEEN to be in cohorts with the ruling regime. THE POLICE ARE 90 PERCENT MUSLIMS AND THEY I GUESS PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY AS ENSHRINED IN THE RELIGION. DO THEY???. IF THEY DO. HOW DO THEY FACE ALLAH IN THEIR PRAYER. DON’T THEY REALIZE THAT ITS AN OBLIGATION TOWARDS ALLAH TO PROVIDE JUSTICE TO THE PEOPLE WHOM THEY SERVE. YES PROVIDE JUSTICE. JUSTICE CAN ONLY BE DELIVERED WHEN ONE ACTS PROFESSIONALLY WITHOUT BIAS. THE POLICE SHOULD STOP ACTING LIKE POLITICIANS AND BEHAVE PROFESSIONALLY AS REQUIRED BY THEIR PROFESSION.
Doc, it seems that from blog sources, the fella’s real name is not Baharom
anybody got further info? If it is true…this is why I LOVE the new information age! 
Could not have imagine getting these things done in 1998! 
Mengapa Saya Masuk DAP ? – Hata Wahari
see the video here:
http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2012/01/24/what-say-you-mengapa-saya-masuk-dap-hata-wahari/
Now we start to see more thinking malay start to join DAP.
(Sorry to side track)
I do not see any contrast between “Malaysian Malaysia” and “1Malaysia”. it is just semantics. Or does it actually implies “Ketuanan Melayu” or “Ketuanan Bukan Melayu”?
After looking at the video again and again… Still no sign of people wearing t-shirt with BN wording or logo… as what u mentioned…..
Your quote:
“It also shows the disgrace action of some Malays wearing BN t-shirts taking laws into their own hands”
Was it your imagination???????
ada.. look closely
Whether Anwar or not leading the Pakatan Rakyat, UMNO has to be voted out no matter what becos of what we have witnessed and these type of UMNO thuggery is not something unusual.
Hindraf is still an illegal organisation..This is a Malay Community with 100% malay only kampong..enough said…
Your logic is illogical
It is not only illogical but disgusting!
It is not only disgusting but condemn!
It is not only condemn but equally wicked and pestiferous.
You mean the Malaysian law does not apply to 100% Malay only kampong?Do you mean UMNO thugs can do anything while they are in 100% Malay kampong?
If Hindraf is illegal, why police not arresting them?
have you been to Jalan Kebun, Kelang? Mana ada 100% Malays!
PRDM to act professionally…good one doc….by now you of all people should have come to the logical conclusion that they are incapable of doing so. Remember APCET II where the police colluded with the UNMO youth to disrupt the meeting? PRDM will never change it’s spots…..so I say LONG LIVE ABU
ABU ZINDABAD
PDRM would dare to touch any UMNO thugs!! PDRM need permission from Ah Ji Gor to act!!
How could the authorities blame public for bad perception on PDRM?
Sorry. I mean PDRM would not dare to touch an UMNO thugs!
Looking at the police reaction… a mixture of indifference and hostility towards the ABU group. I’m very, very suspicious about PDRM’s role in this… and very sad… the “DiRaja” in PDRM is meant to give them status and independence from political control…but this is not the actual case…
The legislators, the executives and the judiciary still do not understand the separation of powers. They cannot differentaite between a political party and the goverment. That is why you have Kerajaan BN and Kerajaan PR when there is only the GOM.
la ni semuanya networked like cobweb or internet web!
Biasalah…
Apa nak dikato.
Jangan harapkan Polis Raja Di Malaysia. Harapkan Pagar, Pagar Makan Padi.
We have paid bloggers (some did it for free) and now we paid thugs (of course some did it for free, for the fun of wacking people).
ABU!
Hang bukan cakap pasal si ellese tu kan?
Interesting…
A conscious abuse. A calculated disrespect. A profound offence.
Is it just annoyance and no more? Or is there much deeper and far more central reason to this incident?
The Qur’an [19:90] exalted the use of reason… “He forbids all that is shameful and all that runs counter to reason [al-munkar], as well as envy..”
I am fully in tune with the aforesaid verse.. thus my mind rejects, and I ought to reject this unacceptable and grossly unreasonable actions/attitudes by the Malays/Muslims… that the committer(s) have ipso facto deviated from the path of Islam and could not possibly be considered a believer.
Agree…
The video reminded me a story in BTN where 12 participants (who support PAS) were threatened by a moderator (who’s a VIP in current UMNO/BN goverment) that their scholarship would be revoked if they were not aligned with “perjuangan UMNO” and did not “sedar diri”.
The UMNOPUTRA/BN is very ego now. Depa threaten others OK, but the rakyat opposing their ideal peacefully tak boleh.
ABU… ABU… ABU…
Pembetulan… it should be [16:90] not [19:90]… mohon maaf.
Doktorji
Umno lapdogs never fail to show their usual stupid intimidation antics. I hope some one in Hindraf can capture the still images of their faces and spread them accross the web. At least we then know where to spit at when we meet them.
ABU! ABU! ABU! The best solution for the time being…
“ABU” can also mean “Aku bersama UMNO”. He!he! .
Ha Ha…
Oh… I better find an ABU sticker for my car. If someone stopped me and depending who the person is, I will say Aku Bersama UMNO or Asalkan bukan UMNO or I am with ABU Hurairah..
Good idea!
LOL
nice one bro AK
Doc, it deeply saddens me to watch these videos as it reminded us of the realities of racial/political divide in Malaysia. Kudos to ABU/Hindraf for showing restraint to these thugs.
I dare not say these are paid UMNO thugs because there are no sufficient evidence yet (other than wearing BN shirt etc). However I do know that even without considering the ‘being paid to disrupt’ factor, it is not far fetched to say that there are some Malays who support these irrational acts.
We must educate our youth and children that different political views does not mean that we can not live peacefully with one another.
I hope all of the readers of this blog realize that the LONG TERM GOAL is to educate OUR OWN CHILDREN (nephews/nieces/brothers/sisters if you do not have children) that these acts of violence are wrong!
There you are 1 more lying Selangor Chief Police to add to the former CPO Khalid something. The prove is in the video just as in the previous charge at the candlelight vigilers singing Negara Ku.
you wonder what is the role of the police.
wont be surprise the poor chap lying in hospital will be charged instead of those UMNO goons.
wtf man.. this is crazy.. hope the police lock these ppl
good job on the ppl calling for calm