”All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for few good men to do nothing.”
- Someone asked why did I use the title “Act of betrayal” to my last 4 posts. It is my blog and I write the way I feel. Right now I felt being betrayed. The government has once again betrayed the people. Clearly there is nothing in the new ACT that actually gave the house buyer and equitable position. We are still at risk and it saddened me because the government decided to proceed with this amendment despite the fact that it did not get the view of the public. Instead they had numerous dialogs with REHDA and National HBA, a national organization by name whose membership is less than 30 people! Is it on this basis the government is saying that the people have been consulted?
- Quite aptly, I suppose the title is also appropriate for the Peaceful Assembly Bill 2011. The bill is weak and quite clearly it favors the government of the day. Those who proposed the bill is actually short sighted because they forgot that it can “cut both ways” What happen when the Federal government change? Would BN like to be on the receiving end of the same bill? The bill is badly done.
- I would expect a bill would create a conducive and facilitating environment for people to have assemblies. We are not living in the communist era. In the current scenario, are there any value limiting assemblies? Today, information travels much faster via Facebook, tweeter, SMS, yahoo groups and others. People of the same ideology assembled as a group in cyberspace.
- I would prefer that the bill reflects a more facilitating mode rather than being limited one. We live in a world where people no longer tolerate the idea “ini tak boleh, itu tak boleh” What they want is “how to make it boleh!” Isn’t it that “Malaysia boleh” is one of our mottos?
- Certainly there is a need to have to rules to ensure that public assembly does not go out of hand. It is not much different from football. We have rules to ensure everyone to have fun playing football. As long the assembly meets certain given criteria, the authorities need to be the facilitator and the referee. This is an ACT of betrayal!
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Doctor I believe you have a plantation so is familiar with agriculture and animal husbandry (raising animal for food) so how come so long not comment on this NFC and Sharizat case?
Dear Dissent is patriotic,
The theory of interest has for a long time been a weak spot in the science of economics. The explanation and the determination of interest rates still give rise to more disagreement amongst economists than any other branch of general economic theory. Economists have found no valid or technical reason to justify interest. They have not been able to grasp anything definite that may be regarded as the reason for the payment of interest, Hitherto, we have no adequate and generally accepted theory of interest which could explain the origin or the causes of interest and the rate of interest.
Interest is responsible for the growth of capitalists in the society where capital is the source and means of rights. Individuals who possess large amounts of capital will enjoy more rights and have better opportunities. Inequality of opportunities lead to accumulation of wealth. Individuals with the help of previously accumulated wealth but more often utilising money borrowed on interest seek profit and fortune for themselves. Thus, this system led to the founding of banks with interest as their basis.
Individuals who have money to invest deposit it in banks for a fixed rate of interest. The banks lend this money to other individuals for a higher rate of interest. The borrowers in return employ it in production or commerce and get, generally, a higher profit than the rate of interest. This economic process, the capitalists claim, is self-adjusting or self-righting and leads to the maximum satisfaction of human wants.
Interest plays an important role in a capitalistic economic system. It is doubtful whether the system could function if interest were abolished completely from the system. Interest is an integral part of the price mechanism which influences the rate of savings and investment. It is also used as an instrument or a weapon to control the money supply in the economy.
Interest exists in all economic sectors whether public, private, agriculture, industrial, etc… For example, before any savings or capital investment decision is made the interest element must be taken into account. In any lending and borrowing proposition interest is one prime factor that influence decision making.
When you purchase anything you just cannot simply avoid from associating yourself with interest. This is true because in any manufacturing activity there are few manufacturers who are able or willing to finance the production operation on cash basis. Normally, the production of goods is partly or wholly financed by commercial banks or any other financial intermediaries. Undoubtedly, the cost of borrowing will be included in the production cost and hence the interest element will be part and parcel of the market price of finished goods.
New avenues have been discovered in the field of interest transactions. Formerly, income and interest had been confined to the business of borrowing and lending money. However, the present modern socioeconomic structure was organized in such a manner that every member of the community could avail himself of this income. Any individual who could save a small amount from his income is assured of interest on it, even without directly investing it in any business… duduk..diam..duit. In any business transactions involving the exchange of wealth, interest becomes such an inseparable part of the deal that it is almost impossible to undertake any kind of economic activity without either charging or paying interest.
Interest, usury is condemned and prohibited in the strongest possible terms by the Qur’an. The Oxford Dictionary defines usury as ‘the practice of lending money at exorbitant interest especially at a higher rate than is allowed by law’. A similar expression is also given by Chamber’s Dictionary. The original word of usury in Arabic is ‘riba’. Riba literally means excess or addition. With particular reference to lending it means any excess above the principal lent. Therefor, it includes both interest and usury. Verse 278 [The Heifer] says discard usury. Verse 279 [The Heifer] says you can take back the capital sum. So, what is prohibited by the Qur’an is the excess over the capital sum. Since interest is an excess over the capital lent, it is therefore forbidden.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) on his last pilgrimage and his last address, said, “From today every form of interest is cancelled; capital indeed is yours which you shall have, wrong not and you shall not be wronged. ALLAH has given HIS injunctions that interest is totally forbidden”.
The attitude of Islam towards usury and interest is clear an unambiguous. There can be no question about the prohibition. It may be said the fact that when the creator of all wisdom and the most benevolent of the merciful, God Almighty Himself has forbidden something, this should be the greatest intellectual argument in support of it. Such a strong argument in relation to which no man-made argument can stand any comparison. BUT yet there are many reasons and arguments put forward by Muslims to make interest Islamically lawful.
zul,
I’m no practitioner in finance or economics but we’ll get there!
For the sake of sustainability in all its manifestations!
I guess, having faith in God and the good in humanity help to soften the rough edges …and we should have faith absolutely!
I am glad that you don’t categorize me as fundamentalist or extremist..
Am sure you’re glad yourself first, that you know you’re not !
“…a bill would create a conducive and facilitating environment for people to have assemblies. …”
That’s what Najib promised and is still promising! You’re asking solutions. Najib creates more problems. Why don’t we just specify an open place somwhere? Penang has a Speakers Corner. Why is that not a designated area? What are the public parks built for throughout the land?
But authoritarian Malaysia PM has different ideas! The Police should preserve order and facilitate these peaceful gathering. But the bill authorises by discretion when and how it is possible. And we know what our PDRM is. The Dy IGP togetheer with Musa Hassan as ultimate superior bosses were judged by a Malaysian court of law as neing “wantonly” negligent for deaths under custody in Selangor. But we still have him around to decide on this.
What’s wrong with our PM that looks at this lightly? And he wants to do reforms?
Does that sound OK to everyone?
Dear Dissent of confusion,
I do not understand what you are trying to explain.
PM should looks lightly on those death in custody?
PM wants reform? Reform needs DRASTIC change not lightly talk cock.
“Does that sound OK to everyone?”
OK?
Apanama…
Wave 33,
D.I.P.., just could not present his case the way he wanted…., What we was implying is that we have ass running the H.M., yet we blame PM for what he wants to reform.
I assume…, that’s his catch..
My say…, is that he D.I.P., is far fetch, and another blog who portray himself like he and the stupid cabinet knows all. ” SINKING BASTARDS..”
Wave33, Meek
The question is asked ..”Does that sound OK to everyone?”
The PM is typified as authoritarian by all these acts. Who’s ruling? The Police? The PM? Who? Perkasa?
The bill is principally saying and implying …the Police has the say on what freedom for citizens is…the Police is now typified by a negligent DY IGP! Or the silence of his immediate boss.
The HM is ass is right!
There needn’t be any of the dumb clauses in the act. There needn’t be any act to regulate freedom. Isn’t the Police supposed to protect the dissenting rakyat? That’s very fundamental!
Simple notion is you don’t regulate “freedom”. You protect citizens and this “freedom”, this fundamental right. Won’t that sound more like it?
Another fundamental is when you don’t protect freedom …what ARE you?
Dr.,
”All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for few good men to do nothing.”
Albert Eistein had also said ..
” The World is a dangerous place not because of the evil men do , but
because of the People who watch and do nothing ”
Hoping that a Good Man like you will step up and do something positive …
…. bertanding lah in the next GE to give the ordinary folks an avenue to show their displeasure in the ” Act(s) of betrayal ” by the current administrators on both sides of the political divide .
Salam
jtba,
You are right in some sense…, but wrong in the long run….., we need o correct and undo wrong doings over the long haul of fifty odd years…, not over four.years and still in the infant stage,
Do you get me…? If not will explain more in detail.
Meek,
Everyone jump into the bandwagon, when Pak Lah had the landslide victory. It is a sure bet to make tons of MONEY. The future is so bright after 43 years, that those wannabe need shade for it.
Unfortunately, the tide turns and we had a tsunami. Just bad luck to those wannabe money politician.
We want people politician.
There have been so many recent ACTS of Betrayal put forward by the government in the last few weeks. The Freedom – NO – Restriction of Assembly Act, amendments to Housing Development Act, Universities and University Colleges Act.
It appears the Federal Government is bent of producing Headlines claiming “Reform” with No intention of any real reform. Its starting to look like an attempt to con those who only read MSM headlines without examining the actual proposals.
I’m looking forward to another Mega betrayal when the so-called repeal of the ISA gets replaced by another 3 repressive laws.
Same old Nasi basi inside a new Tupperware.
I’m waiting to see if enough people get conned to hand back the 2/3 Majority to the Government, even the Pretend Reform will come to a halt.
kittykat 46,
If it happens…., then we have only MORON’s as our CITIZENS..! IDIOTS of THE BIGGEST ORDER…, we should be a shame to clear ourselves as GOD’s creations.
Doc and to all the rest,
This should and would make some sense…!
Najib has taken the rakyat for a ride! — Aliran
November 28, 2011
NOV 28 — The much-heralded reforms promised by Najib to bring us into a new era of liberalism has exploded in the face of the rakyat as a sham, a shameful promise.
We were promised that the ISA would be revoked — and the rakyat rejoiced prematurely. The joy was shortlived when it was revealed that two other laws would replace the ISA, retaining the obnoxious detention without trial. The same undemocratic features of the ISA will now come under a new name, gravely disappointing the rakyat.
We were promised easier democratic freedom of assembly without the need for police permit. The rakyat applauded this sensible approach, which seemed to guarantee the right of assembly as enshrined in the Federal Constitution. With the presentation of the Peaceful Assembly Bill, now they realise that they have been deluded once again.
The Barisan Nasional is not capable of respecting the people’s human rights or honouring its solemn word. The BN is only used to restricting our rights, denying our freedom, controlling our space, destroying our faith in the electoral process, trampling upon our judiciary and completing ignoring what is fair and just.
Old habits die hard and that is the reason it is unwilling to surrender those rights that are justly due to the rakyat. It may proclaim that it is prepared to revoke restrictive laws but in reality it is incapable of returning these rights to the people. It can only rule forcefully; it cannot govern according to the rule of law.
We cannot and should not expect the BN to return our rights. It is not a realistic expectation. We have to take possession of our rights. We have to claim our democratic space; we have to defend our freedom.
It is in this spirit that the lawyers have decided to march on November 29, 2011 from the Lake Gardens to Parliament in protest against the sham Peaceful Assembly Bill, which has made a mockery of our right to assemble peacefully and spontaneously.
This Bill imposes many unjust restrictions and conditions and subjects organisers and all participants to heavy penalties. It is clearly meant to discourage and stop peaceful protests from ever taking place. We cannot tolerate this. We cannot condone this undemocratic Bill.
Aliran urges every freedom-loving Malaysian to be part of the Bar Council march to Parliament — the March for Freedom! Let us gather peacefully and march orderly to Parliament to convey how upset and disappointed we are with this Bill that was promulgated without consultation with the public.
This is not a Peaceful Assembly Bill — it is a Bill against the Freedom of Assembly. It completely ignores Article 20 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states: “Everyone has the right to freedom of assembly and association
P.S. Meek adds…I post this not to gain. a cent…., just that it will make a whole lot of difference in time to come..! Thanks for reading.
what is all this full time , full steam unbridled propaganda machine ha?
pipe down the nazi stuff…
1) for the HDA, i disagree it is a betrayal as there are positives tat will prolly hit the smaller rouge developers. but to hit the big dogs would require improvement. For one, the rouge developers that can be jailed should be clearly defined, where it should the CEO and majority shareholder. furthermore, the proposal for a dispute centre that decision is binding and final is a fing great idea.
DR R-
1. We can disagree if you want to but your basis of disagreement is weak. Firstly from history, project failure also involves the big companies. Some are actually listed. Why the big one failed? Financial mismanagement where house buyers money are not use to pay for construction but use for investment into another project.
2. Currently there are provisions within the ACT that can punish companies by sending them to jail but so far KPKT has never pushed it beyond fines. They never appeal any fines imposed by courts.
3.I say it is a betrayal simply because after RM10 bill worth of abandon houses in the country, they still make the law that favors developer and did not protect the house buyer. It gave house buyer rights that would be difficult for house buyers to pursue. By all accounts to my standard, it is a betrayal
anyways doc, i have forwarded your posts to two MPs, one at the place I vote.. the other at the place I am currently staying at. if u r wondering, 1 BN.. 1 PR. I hope they contact you.
Dr R- Do give me their names
2) as for the Peaceful Assembly Bill.
I was reading thru the anti PAB images. I don’t have problems with it
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386209_232333003499116_159764004089350_553012_780667629_n.jpg
1) assembly organizers must first notify police of their intent which then the assembly is allowed to continue unless the police reject. this is the same principle used in Australia Peaceful Assembly Act 1992.
2) designated areas will require no advance notice to carry out assemblies. ala freedom corner. how is this bad??
2) assemblies is prohibited 50m from schools, hospitals etc. I absolutely have no problems with this.
3) rouge organizers who didnt provide advance notice may be fined. y not?
4) illegal to bring babies and children to assemblies. I dun see a problem with this either way.
my only problem is that we cannot take it to the streets. which we should. also that i feel that police need a court order to ban an assembly
other than that.. i dun see the big issue here.
Rocko,
Item..1,
No Comments.
Item ,.2,
Please go do your homework…., tak bisa bicara dengan orang tak berapa siuman….., you act like another asshole paid by Najib.
Doc,
Don’t waste your your time with rocko,
If at all you are of use to us…, you have been listed and you will be call to serve the rakyaat…, no two side two a coin just one..!
Rocko can talk …..he thinks that this forum is for boys.., just let him smart himself…., I’m keen to know the bastard from PR..?
Rocko…., tepuk dada tanya selera……, don’t bang your chest like the dunggu APE.!. Are you one..?
even as we demand for more regulation which I do agree with you fully. we have to appreciate that the property market has the most powerful lobbyists in the country. even a small positive step is an achievement.
just look how people like tony pua, saifuddin abdullah and khalid samad. ppl who are not afraid to speak up but ended up disappointingly silent on this issue. even ppl like meek who screams and roar at every wrongdoing can only muster a “no comment”
that’s why I don’t consider it betrayal.. it is a small win for the little guy but the fight goes on
hello meek..
i do try to not waste doc’s time. i hope i have helped him as much as i can. he is a man with a cause
how bout u argue my points further on the Peaceful Assembly Act.. tq.
“We live in a world where people no longer tolerate the idea “ini tak boleh, itu tak boleh” What they want is “how to make it boleh!” Isn’t it that “Malaysia boleh” is one of our mottos?”
Nice.
Hua Yong,
These guy’s don’t even know the basic’s…, there is no motto…other then be a idiot…if we all follow them..!
wave 33
ak47 likened the home minister with a monkey grin. you can be sure iSA replacement will be equally disappointed. there is no sincerity from the ruling govt in the first place. in fact very few despotic govts would want to concede anyway. look at syria and yemen. classic examples. anyway, how revolutionary can the revised law be when it has to be amended after 24 hours?
mmc,
When PAA was announced.., I was over my death body…,then I realise I was a ass.
I then realise that arseholes…., only talk cock ……I mean our BN Government….., 1Malayasia Clinic, 1 malaysia Kedai…and what not sad the forgot the Bosia and what not…?
Let me be frank to conclude all the ass project uses our the rakyaats money…., no fucker or sucker like NAJIB or his WIFE and the Cabinet STUPID Ministers can claim so……because it is us , our so call jokers money……, not ” KEPALA Bapak Hang Dia Punya ..?”.
Betrayal is right but its very “Melayu” in the sense they’re expected to in a cultural perception that smacks of sadism. In post modern age nothing can be taken for granted but our citizens have too much deprivation – an education system that’s treacherous and health practices and beliefs that’s rudimentary. But both have one principal outcome – virulent capitalism.
As far as Malaysia goes the BN government is fundamentally a fascist government. Forget about the religious pretext they mouth but they’ve used religion to sow fear and docility. Malaysians won’t be docile any more as civil society has now awakened and has sown cultural roots that cannot be wiped out now.
Right now a country where money amongst the wealthy is abundant breeds repression and its very blatant as in UAE. They’re flushed with money but they dehumanise human beings. [1]
As for housing, house buyers/citizens need to be aware about the evil of banks now being everywhere abused. Housing for some sectors of buyers is about CREDIT. And credit is about finance and banks. With virulent capitalism, the “betrayal” is actually outright repression. You’ll destroy society and enslave members when banks walk away unblinking and carefree – and of course ensure UMNO stays in political power. But its really the few and not the rest of dumb UMNO members of admirers.
As for banks look at what an American suggests other Americans or anyone else do about banking and finance and how to perhaps value human dignity.
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1. Restore The Glass-Steagall Act, which prohibited commercial banks from engaging in the investment business. Unfortunately, the Gramm-Leach-Bilely Act repealed the Glass-Steagall Act’s restrictions on bank and securities-firm affiliations. It also amended the Bank Holding Company Act to permit affiliations among financial services companies, including banks, securities firms and insurance companies. The new law sought financial modernization by removing the very barriers that Glass-Steagall had erected. (New York Times, Friday, November 25, 2011)
or better yet:
2. Nationalize all banks licensed to do business in the United States. The profit motive caused banks and bank leaders to ignore public safety and responsibility. Instead, banking became a cesspool of personal greed, where sales commissions, not service, were the goal. Government owned banks, with neither private shareholders nor sales-rewarded employees, would be less subject to profit and greed motivations. – Roger Mitchel[2]
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As a very young country the new Malaysia will have plenty to do and they’re very challenging but the efforts will pave the way for a much better society.
[1] – UAE threw activists in jail.
[2] Roger Mitchell
We really ought to be thinking about a new monetary system where there are no such wild increases in the nation money stock. The double whammy increase in the nation’s money stock from fractional reserve banking and monetisation of budget deficits are hitting our purchasing power. It is all about greed and the use of non intrinsic value of the medium of currency exchange – all tied to usury!
Abang AK / D.i.P.,
As much as ….the comments…, most will be blurred…, best to keep the context in layman’s terms…, if not the delivery goes haywire.
We should realise who’s the audience…and also the commentators.
But then again since no reply…., I need to agree that both of you had made your points crystal clear. Thanks.
Meek,
Let’s learn the truth about money as we believe it as just paper currencies and coins, and that the nation’s total amount of money will remain unchanged.
In the early days of banking, banks give gold receipts to people who deposit gold in the vault. The gold depositers discover they can use the gold receipts as money as it is readily accepted for purchase of other goods. These gold receipts then became money collaterised against the gold deposited. Not anymore !
Then the banks realised that if they can get people to deposit cash with the banks by promise of receipt of interest they can use these deposits to land to other peopleat higher intersest- the legitimised Alongs. They found borrowers do not want to receive the loan in cash; the borrowers will be happyto be given a chequebook with the bank making an accounting entry that says the borrower have the money. At the banks ensured the loans do not exceed the amount of cash deposited, then they realised through experience they need only hold certain amount of cash in their vaults; not all depositers will come to the bank to withdraw cash at the same time. The banks started to lend many times more cash then they actually have. The banks just need a good clearing system; not much cash is required to be available. Hence the birth of fractional reserve banking, which is what banking is operating nowadays. A RM1000 deposited to a bank and lend out to borrower less the statutory reserve can create RM25000 in money out of thin air. Over period of time nation’s money stock will continually increase and that is why we today have to pay so much more for say our car or house.
Nation’s governments also add to the nation’s money stock without we realising it. When governments spend more than the revenue they earn they have to sell government bonds to cover the deficit. In other words they give their IOUs, take cash from biondholders and use it to pay deficit spending. At the end of the year when the bond matures but there is still another budget deficit they issue new bonds to pay the existing bondholders as well as other series of bonds to cover the new deficit. If the volume of bonds is too high , they print paper currencies to settle some of it – this is called monetisation of budget deficit, which adds further to the nation’s money stock from thin air.
Abang Ak,
Are you teaching me to go back to basic’s..? Good info otherwise…!
The truth is “money makes money” and the rich will become richer and the poor will become poorer. We may increase our standard of living but in perpetual indebtness if we do not live within our means.
The commercial banks create money by lending and, therefore, increase the supply of money which may affect the value of money. But in Islam the creation of money through the banking system is not permitted. Islam calls basically for a 100% reserve. Thus banks will become more service oriented rather than money oriented.
zul,
Not sure if that’s NOW practical.
Fractional banking has a place. Its the governance fundmentally or lack of it that screws up things. There are many notions of Islamic banking and I’m not familiar with them except a few. But fractional banking creates, adds and magnify CREDIT and that requires lots of good ethical standards of practice plus a reasonable environment to move about. For eg in a society that’s largely authoritarian, working with the fist, may work for a while but it’s headed for disaster …as in our country.
Then again there’s this idea of culture. Among some Muslim nations “rights” have varied meanings. When you’re born into a such and such family before you can appreciate the values of work and your own ability, you have not only wealth but extra “rights”. Some of this certainly exists in the UAE and Saudi.
As regards Islamic banking and such, it’s only as good thing if the high ethical standards are followed. Look at Sukuk bonds. Billions were raised for the PKFZ and look at what the problems are in store for us.
Banks don’t work alone. You see pictures of nice looking bankers with expensive suits in news and tv in Malaysia and might be misled all are OK. Banks can go see talk to land owners and contractors and the next thing you know, with the permissive system we have, you have lots of houses. Even good lawyers in our system become bad and the pieces of paper drawn up is not anything better for wrapping dog food.
But essentially, the system that can regulate the economy to produce meaningful physical progress which underlies good honorable values that are regenerative or sustainable is what most people want …or at least the 99%
There are no quick fix to this but it is interesting to see that in open societies in the West people can think and experiment and come up with measures that takes off some of the very rough edges in life.
Local currency is one. The co-operative movement is another and in Malaysia has been more or less corrupted and destroyed by our politicians. The answers is not one solution but many things with the germ of sustainability.
You can’t live forever nor can you want to but as much as you can tell nice memorable stories of your grandparents you’d want that your grandchildren can do the same.
Cheers.
AK,
Am not really sure what the audience is and I’d rather learn something from wherever. But if you can read average English and still don’t come off with something it’s good to ask. You may find commenters as much as readers do want to learn something. What’s good or bad cannot be assumed for others if you don’t exchange reasons. Not everything must need to be right.
If you’re referring to nationalization of banks, in the context of those points are it’s reasonable. You have to imagine what it takes to do that. And you reason and ask. Can you imagine if there is a book that can answer all the questions and if you have that, your life will be bliss? Malaysian Muslims think the Quran is that book.
In the recent bank or credit crash, it sounded very stupid that politicians allowed themselves to be screwed by bankers. Why were voters not asked for a referundum for eg.? Why is this allowed? Or is allowing it the root problem? But Malaysian bankers are now screwing Malaysians. We don’t have a crash yet but as things are we might be heading that way. Without a roof over our head, its not nice. You might have clothing and some food but you need a roof over your head.
In some countries there are a mix of choices – some are public housing, some are rent and own and etc.
To ensure we get as good as we can these 3 things – roof over your head, shirt on your back and some makan. We’re not yet touching health and education and a host of other things.
Adam Smith was extremely moderate in his attitude to the usury laws. For he was well aware that individual savings may be absorbed either by investment or by debts, and that there is no guarantee that they will find an outlet in the former. Further, he favoured a low rate of interest as it would increase the chance of savings finding their outlet in new investments rather than in debts.
zul,
A quick check came up with interesting things about Adam Smith.
http://www.humanities.mq.edu.au/Ockham/y64l01.html
He’s talking about “moral sentiments” but you have chew up the thing. I haven’t read it all yet but apparently he began as somewhat a person of
letters.
Doc.. I like your tag line. Terasa juga bisanya.
There are many, many, many voters that accept scandal-tainted leaders, factionalism, bribery, betrayal and other improprieties as a necessary evil as long as they can make lots of money and improve their personal economic status. That’s the situation the intelligent, morally upright and straight thinking voters have to face in the coming GE13.
Zul,
Agree with you.., but cannot convince ….most idiots that the money the current government ( BN ) spend is our hard earn money…!
Sick jokers ….who care the heck of their future generations….., only people like you and doc and the rest can bring them to their senses,
Dear Doc,
Sudah biasa lah…
Air sirap sama tapi botol berbeza, tetapi botol “baru” ini kotor dan berkuman.
Let’s wait what is in store for us on the two new laws replacing ISA.
We will be disappointed again. I Hope I would be wrong, if it is wrong to be right, I want to be wrong.
Regarding Act of Betrayal, most UMNO politician are involves in business (indirectly), they have business interest in properties development. Of course, the law would be loose. You do not expect UMNO to kill themselves, do you?
I have always against politician going into business. When they focus on money, people interest would be second. UMNO is all about money, let me say it again and spell it out M. O. N. E. Y.
What is the link to your black banner above? Gamuda?
We are a fool to believe it is for “Ugama, Bangsa dan Negara”
Wave 33,
My former Boss,,,was a District Engineer…., he quit and went into full time politics…., ( WHY..? )…..it was all about money.! Sad to say he made a grave mistake….and Selangor went to PR.
No doubt ,,he was my former Boss…., i feel we is just another ass…a UMNO ass., who thought that windfalls fall from the skies….with no efforts.
Meek,
Everyone jump into the bandwagon, when Pak Lah got the landslide victory. It is a sure bet to make tons of MONEY. The future is so bright after 43 years, that those wannabe need shade for it.
Unfortunately, the tide turns and we had a tsunami. Just bad luck to those wannabe money politician.
We want people politician.