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A few days ago, I highlighted the issue of my wife who tried to use a SPR political agent (UMNO BA) to register herself and 5 others family members as a voter in DUN Bukit Antarabangsa and Parliament Ampang. Being the wife of blogger who speaks strongly against BN and thinking that she would likely to vote for PR, her application to change of voting place was not processed. It did not even reach SPR.
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This morning, my wife told me that after her calls being transferred from one department to another; she was informed that her name does not appear in the electoral roll search on the web because she has been designated as a postal voter. The officer at SPR cannot even say for sure under which area that she is supposed to be a postal voter. This is indeed shocking to me as she had voted before in Kg Baru as a regular voter on at least 2 occasions. Why is she being designated as a postal voter after I have left the military more than 10 years ago? Come GE13, which Corporal will mark her ballot paper?
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Coincidently this morning I received an email from a friend who gave me the list of voters that stays in the same address. The email suggests that At P44 PERMATANG PAUH & N10 SEBERANG JAYA, 152 people lives in two houses. Not to accept things blindly, I took 10 IC numbers that was given and put in the electoral roll search
at SPR website. I was shocked to see the result. One group has a house address with the number 1138 (64 people) and the other is 1155 (88 people). It’s truly 1-Malaysia because the list contains people from different ethnic background in the same house. Anyone who wants the information, please drop me a request and I will forward to you the email so that you can make your own conclusion.
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We all know P44 is Anwar parliamentary area and N10 is Dato Ariff Shah (Dato Amin Shah Brother). A quick search shows that in GE12, Ariff shah won N10 marginally with a majority of 553 votes. Clearly there is a concerted effort to import voters into N10 and P44 to reinforce Ariff Shah winnings and to probably dislodge Anwar. This is probably the tip of the iceberg that we know off.
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There could be many more as it is not easy for the public and political party to verify the database in detail. I believe SPR system can do a search using various strings to find commonalities. The question is whether they want to do so? For the record EC has made a statement that they cannot remove the list of 152 people in the list without the owners coming forward. That shows the integrity of EC in ensuring that they have a clean roll. Is the demand to be BERSIH is unfair? By the way, I found out that Malaysiakini also did a write up about it HERE.
All I can conclude is “harapkan pagar,…”
Update: From KLIA
While at KLIA I bumped into a friend who is serving in the Military. We started chatting about my last post and decided that we should check his and other currently serving officers military ID via SPR website. This is what we found.
Military ID Number: 3004789,3004589, 3004489,3004389 & 3004386.
You can continuously play with number randomly and I can confirm who is still serving and who are not. The above numbers belong to serving officers.
If you look at the result below, you can appreciate that their Military ID number has been hijacked and issued with a false IC number which can be used for voting. Look at the date of birth some of this people
Bakerah 15 Dec 1920 (81 years old)
Chong 13 June 1930 (71 years old)
Patimah 31 Dec 1914 (97 years old)
Mahmood 21 April 1940 (71 years old)
Chong CY 13 June 1930 (81 years old)
My question is who is responsible in allowing these goldies to use Military ID and be issued with a civilian ID?
Can you identify whose parliamentary and state seats that are involved?
Still think that SPR is BERSIH?
Updates while in Jakarta
I am having dinner in the hotel. It is never fun to have meals alone. I took the search to the next level. This is what I found when I key in all the 300XXXX ID at SPR home search site. I found they have no address and all of them are from Johor. What does it mean? Could this a factor that made UMNO really strong in Johor?
Another suspicious identity
Dr,
My earlier comment way down below regarding old ICs surrendered.
Duh … dah jadi goldmine ?
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=16269:pas-youth-gives-ec-damning-evidences-of-phantom-voters&Itemid=2
Cheers.
Dr,
You subscribe or read today’s NST ? (Not available on line)
Page 1 & 2 – interesting news…. esp the tabulation on the voter registration agents appointed by EC.
Bound to raise a few eyebrows … !
UK tabloid claims Malaysian businessman bought RM14.5b (£3bn)gold yacht.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3705851/3bn-gold-yacht-is-worlds-most-expensive.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2016839/Luxury-yacht-make-Roman-Abramovich-jealous-sells-3bn.html
Does anyone has information who actually bought it? Where did he get so much money from? Lootings money?
No wonder we always have loopsided contracts, huge commission payments, inflated costs, billions dollars scandals, deliberate mismanagement, and etc!
Sorry to sidetrack the main topic.
Malaysia boleh
Warm Regards, Dr Mohd Rafick
Dr,
your para 3 – “Anyone who wants the information, please drop me a request “..
Yes please.
Terima kasih.
Sorry to go off topic but can you believe this?
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/rci-rules-beng-hock-committed-suicide/
This is like the Casey Anthony case.
Sigh.
Dear Sabahan Out of respect, I would say that they (RCI) have a right to come to any conclusion that think is right to them.
However whether that ACTUALLY happens is another matter.
Many people who can evaluate the issue objectively would disagree with the RCI. I am one of them.
In my previous articles, I have elaborated why the theory of suicide will not hold water. No point repeating the details here.
It is enough to say that the RCI decison where he put the blame on both MACC and TBH is a political decision.
What a sham! Warm Regards, Dr Mohd Rafick
I agree with you doc, this is a political decision.
Personally, I expected something like this, but the optimist in me wished that I would be proven wrong. Unfortunately, I wasn’t
I reckon, to minimize the damage, they will make sacrificial lambs out of the 3 MACC officers, but they also deserve to be punished. And I agree with LKS, forced suicide is homicide.
Sabahan 18,
Election around the corner…, cuti pun cut short. Scared his most trusted henchmen were digging his grave, When you are scared of your shadows…, you see enemy all around.
11/11/11 seems a good day to put to sleep the misery of all Malaysians.
Cheers Bro…, anyway…don’t feel bad about me asking you to read more.
That’s just a stir.
I don’t feel bad at all. Actually, you calling me out like that made me realize that I haven’t given justice to reading this blog, for I have never made any inputs at all, besides the private emails I’ve had with Doc.
Anyways, I heard from very good authorities that the elections are in 2012.
doc,
another phantom voter to investigate
http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/newscommentaries/42227-how-did-i-get-a-mykad-fumes-cheated-investor
There are two reforms which if implemented will pull down BN or at least cause BN to fight for its life in the next general election. They are:
1) Use of indelible ink
2) Abolish postal votes
But the lapdog EC will never do this to BN. They will continue to subvert the right of Malaysians to choose their own government.
Duplicate names on the electoral rolls are used by phantom voters voting multiple times. The whole thing can be nipped in the bud by using indelible ink so that any voter can only vote once. But will the EC implement this? No! BN’s seat of power is dependent upon cheating. EC is now making a show of studying biometric system which will not be implemented in time for the next G.E. In fact it will NEVER be implemented because the task of collecting every voter’s biometric is just too great and impractical.
Kenny,
You know that and we all know that .., except for the learned Chairman of our Stupid SPR.
I think we should station volunteers outside the polling station to mark all the guys who have voted. The indelible ink should be mark on the forhead if SPR refuse to abide by it.
Just waiting to make a fast buck with this biometric system and in the same wave kow tow to some idiots in power.
I think doc you may be jumping the gun with your conclusion and assumption. There is no proof that this was done by UMNO or Ariff shah or intentional. For all that you know some are PR supporters. Or that all those registered may have done that since Anwars days as TPM. But all these are conjectures which should not be entertained.
What it does affect is the integrity of the electoral roll. And this is a serious matter. As mentioned before EC could easily identify these discrepancy of two addresses with computer softwares and we built in a confirmation procedure in our regulation to use the last address. On one address with many names it must be investigated. If there are reasonable reasons publish it. It may be tenanted rooms in one address. but EC should not delete them if it’s correct. Again a confirmation procedure should be had.
And another thing. All political parties must also be vigilant. There’s a process of public scrutiny of the list. They should carry that diligence. They must object to it. Each branch can verify the reasonable numbers in a particular house. They can know whether it’s tenanted or squatters or any other reasons. They must object. If they do this these names can be striked out. If they don’t we must assume that they too consent to the same.
On military ID, can you tell from these numbers from date it was issued. Thus for bakerah should he have a lower digit number?
Ellese,
So quick to defend the govt and EC of the day even when the result is highly questionable?
Dear knight
That is basically Ellese job, whenever a statement or a fact is stated, Ellese will come in to look for loopholes and questionable conclusion. After that is done, Ellese will attack the commentator whether a fair view and a sincere consideration is given for both the devils and the saints.
Last resort would be to do a personal attack by name calling, but Ellese name calling is much more professional, ie. hypocrite, blind partisan and malas membaca.
I do support what Ellese is TRYING to do, to have a fair and clean view on on the subject, or we shall called it Bersih.
It worries me when Ellese uphold the rights of a devil.
Salam.
i almost falling of my chair reading your comment, honestly your great sense of humour often amuse me.
btw, i basically apply the same strategy and tactic, but i make sure i don’t side the devils.
Make sure (deleted by admin)……You see Beng Hock died under duress….And the culprits get away with less than 5 years imprisonment……I doubt so…..These folks might walk free
Remember the joker who initiated the Amritsar massacre…..He think he’s right
That’s it…..Since it’s legal, we should (deleted by admin)…..Can we get away with it? Hahahaha……
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Dyer
This is utterly kurang ajar. Wishing the death of another. And calling on others to kill me?And this is the morality and values of PR that you espouse? It’s sickening.
I demand an apology. And you doc I thought you’re better than this. It must be censured or your blog will desecrate to filth.
To looes, I know you’re totally rubbish and incapable of reply. But to call on others to kill me just because having contrarion view is absolutely abhorrent. You’re no different from those people in the video. And you think you’re still right.
Ellese
My apologies. I did not see this earlier
Thanks doc.
Ouch!
Ahemm …..
Nanti orang tua tak bolih tidor, loh !
Kesian…
What do you call these people.
What do you call those who believe in the right of assembly of one but not the other? The right of assembly of bersih but not the other? The right to assemble on the 9th of one party but not the other?
What do you call these people who condemned those who support the opponent of bersih’s walk as supporting the “devils” but not when ambiga said the same thing? Not when one of their principled supporter by the name of sabahan18 said the same thing?
What do you call these people who condemned those who question the rights of overseas voters to vote as anti bersih and anti democratic but not when Sabahan18 did the same thing?
What do you call these people who claimed to be principled but judge an action as right or wrong depending on who says or does it? If I say it, it’s wrong. But if ambiga says it, it’s right. If sabahan18 says it, it’s right. Though all said the same thing.
What do you call these people? Who claims to want fair and objective media on msm but not on pro pr alternative media? Who condemns others of not playing and writing fairly but writes unfairly? Who makes judgement based on one side but not the other? Who criticises on a personal basis against whoever put forth contrarian views; rather than countering them with relevant arguments? Who name called those counter party among others as devils?
What do you call these people?
Dude, I don’t know what to say.
But you know what, you’ve gotta give yourself props for standing by what you believe in. I’m sure everyone here, whether openly or not, give you that, for you articulate your thoughts on the issues raised here in an intellectual manner.
The only unfortunate thing, unlike most people here, you are seen to be siding the peeps whom everyone think and believe to be the cause of all of Malaysia’s miseries.
I check doc’s blog everyday but I don’t really comment. The only reason why I started being active is because Meek called me out, asked me to read, – insinuating at least to me – that I am another one of those who talk nonsense.
I took it upon myself to show that I, too, know how to think. And you know what, when I started expressing my thoughts, and engage people, someone emailed me – I don’t know how he/she got my email address – and wrote this:
“Now I know why you don’t like to comment. coz once you start commenting, you don’t stop”
WTF, right?
How do you even reply to that? If you don’t post, people ask you to go read, as if I’m an imbecile. If you do, they say you’re too loquacious.
How?
The point is, we all have different views and thoughts, but at the end of the day, we can’t be too carried away by and with what the other commentators here say. We all still live our lives beyond this forum, no?
And lastly, even before you started engaging me, I said it out loud, that if ever doc meets with you, I want to go as well, because we may be looking at the same things from totally different eyes, talent recognizes talent.
Feel me?
Sabahan,
Yeah Reginald Dyer was also an intellectual person too. The one who massacred in Amritsar. Come to think of it, Adolf Hitler too. Salah means salah lah. Ellese is no God. Frankly, I practically make it a mission to snub these people till they “mampus”. The Gandhi way.
I agree, looes; salah means salah. No matter how much spin we try, and even till the end of the world, salah is still salah.
Personally, I understand why our LSE friend – oops, he hasn’t confirm nor deny it – is steadfast in defending BN. He has reasons and while I don’t agree to the way he protects the guilty parties, he does it with intellectual depth.
I have many close friends and classmates who are like him; UMNO till death, but the only difference so far is that my friends/colleagues accept when people like us prove them wrong.
I’ll give you a very good example. A few of my classmates work directly under the PM, one of them being his private secretary since before he became DPM.
Now this fella is smart, very smart. He was also very instrumental in the Saiful sodomy case. When Sodomy II came about, and knowing he was a central figure in the whole thing, I called and we met up. I told him, in no uncertain terms, that he’s gonna burn in hell for his part.
He accepted my arguments and conceded it was a stupid thing to do, but since the ball has rolled, it was too late to take it back. I told him to repent and he took it in his stride to accept what he did was wrong.
When the same man got married, I told him he’s bastardizing his wife’s whole family because he’s doing it to ‘cover line.’ In my batch, I am known to be the one who speaks his mind, irrespective of the consequences. And I told him to not proceed with the marriage because the whole world knows he’s gay, and getting married is not gonna change that.In the end, after less than a year, they divorced, And when he called me to tell me, he started with “You’re right. I shouldn’t have done it.”
I apologize for blabbing but I just want to stress here that, even those who work for the government and are part of the whole bastardization of the country do concede that they are wrong when they are.
But despite the damning evidences of how the corrupt regime operates, they are still with UMNO because 1. They still think it could change 2. They make a good living
You tell me sabahan, what do you call those people I wrote. Salah kata salahlah.
You don’t generalize me like K.A.. You don’t know me. I didn’t even take government scholarship coz thought it was not right. The only grant I took was given to me by the university which is not related at all to the govt of Malaysia. I’m very different from K.A. or you for that matter. K.A. was an core follower of Anwar previously. So don’t judge me by your knowledge of K.A.
I started this journey with an articulation. And you know what it’s still valid. Didn’t jump to follow anyone.
Ellese,
I, of all people, am not generalizing you based on the kind of people I know who side with the government.
The post above was to say that I understand your steadfastness in defending what you believe in. While I don’t know you, based on your thoughts here, you are like the people I know.
But, again, based on what I read here, you seem to be reluctant to agree on stuff that are conspicuously clear. I mean. as I have said before, we look at things with different eyes. I like to engage with other people not to try to convince or convert, nor would I continue to stand firm if there are valid arguments against what I stand for.
Now, some confessions. I had to throw a person out there because I feel that it isn’t fair that you sort of know about me; calling me out when you mentioned my Alma Mater, the one where I got my first (Bachelor’s) degree from.
Now, I knew that majority of the people here wouldn’t know who I was talking about, despite the very clear description. You had to personally, or at least personally know someone who does, to know who I was referring to. And when you mentioned KA, I managed to get something out of who you are
I will admit, I am working out a theory as to who you could be. I asked if you went to LSE, you don’t want to say.
Now, I am asking you this: Are you currently working with KA? If so, were you from the EPU before being transferred to the PMO?
Dear Sabahan,
As I informed earlier I do not wish to reveal myself first and thus would not confirm or deny. I’ve referred to your alma matter coz you have disclosed it publicly before.
I have used and will only use public information.
I don’t defend bn. If you read I don’t make reference to bn. It’s all about issues and what I see as fair and correct in the context of our social milieu and values. For example issue on voters registration. Were of same view.But My position is seen as anti bn and you’re not. On issue of right to assemble, I’m again said to be anti bn and you’re not even though were the same. In fact most position are my own articulation and not bn’s. That’s the problem with most commentators here as they can’t accept that they’re wrong and unfair. That’s why most descend to personally attack me. One even call for my death and call others to kill me. This value is wrong. And a number here (save a few like doc) who believes that this commentator view is fair. You tell me isn’t this wrong? Salah tetap salah. And ive pointed out many instances like this from racism to double standards. Yet they revel in this value.
Ellese
I have to hats off to you for being such an intellectual in debate/arguements and to side UMNO at all costs if I may say. It’s a waste that UMNO did not engage you to be their cybertroopers as those current troops are a pathetic lot.
I have no qualm with you taking sides for UMNO or even insists that UMNO should and always be the govt of Malaysia but there are times we as individual should stand up for RIGHTEOUSNESS and JUSTICE. It doesn’t matter whether partisan for or against which party, JUSTICE/TRUTH/RIGHTEOUSNESS should prevail.
I just hope that in your very quiet moment reflecting of the reality happenings on the soil of Malaysia, there will still be some conscience and humanity in you to see either UMNO/PR supporter as human and our heart should be with and for the human being above any political party.
I am still learning a lot from reading every one’s comment and Dr’s writings and not a politics expert, but reminding myself to use conscience to see/judge matters.
Nicely put, my friend.
Unfortunate, once already brainwashed,….. well…. what else to say ?
Even a brain surgeon can’t cure the disease.
In the broader scheme of things, I think you are right, however value judgment (those you capitalized) base on moral and emotion may not stand the test of time and scientific assessment, that is why some may call it double standard and hypocritical. That said, I agree some of the commenters here have the talent (talent recognized talent?) to confuse probabilities with numerous possibilities where logical and rational does not prevail. At worst like in the TBH case, the crooks don’t even care to confuse and convince, they just do thing as they wish.
HY,
I used the term ‘talent recognizes talent’ as a figure of speech, and I’m damn sure Ellese got what I was trying to say. It is not a chest-thumping way of saying we’re intellectuals, believe me.
Judgement based on moral DO stand the tests of times. I will have to disagree with you on that. Emotions, no; but judgements based on one’s morality does.
As an individual, I look at facts and let facts speaks for themselves. Probabilities is a good benchmark but not my basis for any formed decisions, for they are as flimsy as half-baked truths.
You are wrong. If you read properly I blame EC for putting the integrity of our electoral roll in jeopardy and suggested actions that it should take. But you fail to read this.
I have been taught that justice truth and righteousness do not depend on who did it but what is done. My religion taught me that even enemy can be right. However much dislike or loathe muslims have against Jews, ive been taught that they must be judged by their deed and not the person. A criminal of a crime is not perpertrator of a subsequent crime unless he actually commits a crime. He cannot be guilty merely because he is a criminal. You are righteous fair truthful and just to defend such a criminal. You are fair righteous and truthful if you stand by what others call the “devil”.
I’ve met some of these people personally. Some have no agenda. Some are god fearing. Some are righteous and principle. But once they decide against you, it matters not the substance. It matters not what is righteous fair and just. They are wrong because they side with the devil. Why are we like this?
You sure, Ellese not UMNo cybertrooper. Hahaha….by the way, I watch the 3D sex & zen in singapore. He reminds me of Prince of Ning….Hahahaha
At least, Razaleigh is better….Admit it, salah means salah lah
“If I say it, it’s wrong. But if ambiga says it, it’s right. If sabahan18 says it, it’s right. Though all said the same thing.” ….. Ellese
Actually you don’t. I had pointed this out when you kept saying that what you said was the same as Ambiga.
No one questioned the right of any group to assemble peacefully but to argue that the bunch of perkasa goons had the right to assemble to DISRUPT and ABUSE others doing the same meant that they had already forfeited their right to assemble (to prevent others from assembling peacefully).
You kept trying to get BORROWED CREDIBILITY from Ambiga and then using that to twist and turn to defend the perkasa goons. These goons had expressed their intent to disrupt and abuse the bersih rally. Why didn’t you took a stand against their ugly and uncivilised expressed intent ?
Playing the devil’s advocate is one thing but to be the devil disguised in the garb of twisted logic is another.
A right can be forfeited by intent? If you read carefully both perkasa and UMNO Youth also call for peaceful assembly. However much Ambiga dislike them she respected their right to assemble. Be fair consistent and principled. Quit categorizing people as devil.
Expressed intent , dear ! Ever heard of criminal intimidation ?
I have never said that they do not have the right to assemble peacefully but when they said that they wanted to assemble to disrupt and abuse the others then don’t you think that’s rather unprincipled and inconsistent with their wisht to “assemble peacefully” ?
If it is a principled stand you are taking then you really don’t have a leg to stand on.
In Singapore, Ibrahim Ali would be eating curry rice in either Whitley detention or Queentown Remand Centre. Perhaps, Ellese can do a study tour there. After the Mat Selamant escape, Singapore authorities tightened the security so much in Whitley that fly can’t flown from the building
Or he would be buried somewhere deep in the seas, and even his family not knowing where.
A colleague of mine – a Filipino – said that if he were a politician in the Philippines, he would have been assassinated long time ago! LOL
Huh!! Perhaps you can elaborate what was said by IA n KJ in total. How it amounted to criminal intimidation under our law which is unlawful? And a precedent that this negate the right to assemble?
Sabahan asked Ellese if he’s been to LSE. Hahaha…..Watch this show, you get what I mean
Oh, by the way, it’s perfect legal to tekan people. People commit suicide, not my pasal. He can’t tahan mah! I rest mt case
Join my quest in making sure smart alecs like Ellese got heart attack & “mampus”……Selangor MACC has shown the way man
I would call them human beings with PRINCIPALS…, they are neither a tail wacking DOG like you…..nor a partisan supporter…., they just believe that some commonsense should PREVAIL. No hard demands.
aiyo itu EC chairman UMNO punya orang kah?
mmc,
You only came to know about it now…? ask MC or GB to cut and paste the Interview for all to read. No posting of links.
DearDoctor, I input my old IC number and numerous running numbers before and after that. I find that all those numbers are people from Kuala Lumpur. It is the same for my wife’s old IC number. She registered her IC in KL.
I also tried the numbers above and running numbers before and after the number you have stated above. They are all people from Johor.
I don’t know whether others can confirm by putting your old IC numbers. If you had registered your IC in a particular state whether the running numbers before and after are people from the same state or locality?
Could it be the numbering system of the old IC is such that certain numbers are for people from a particular locality?
Dear observer
The 300xxxx number is restricted number and used solely by the armed forces for the officers. It’s no different from Z number plate. The officers numbers are all issued by a unit in Mindef and they are sequential for officers in the same batch. It’s not fixed to any particular state. From time time, the army intel issues special civilian IC numbers for intel related works
Doctor, I can’t verify what you say is correct. Are you sure that the numbers are given to the armed forces? Wouldn’t there be alphabets before the numbers to indicate it is an Armed Forces IC? Something like “T” ?
My father’s old ic number also starts with 3 but he has never served in the Armed forces or police for that matter.
Doctor, I put in a similar search on the SPR site and using the first number given but put in “T” in front of the number “3004789″. What I got was the name of the following person “MOHD SAUPI BIN HJ CHE ISA” location was “1 REJ SEM DI RAJA”. The next number “T3004589″ was for ” BADRI BIN HJ TAIB” and location is “MK TD – CAWANGAN SUMBER MANUSIA (CSM)”.
Maybe you have made a mistake here and should have put in a “T” before the numbers. Is there a possibility you have jumped the gun again?
Those results do not belong to the right individuals.
But consistently by inserting “T” in front of the numbers, the results show military personnel.
PS – I noticed that various other numbers beginning with “3004xxx” show the locality in the same area. “3007xxx” another locality in Johor.
My conclusion is that the first 4 digits are to signify state and location.
Is your father is also in Johor?
I list the date of birth and the ID number again. If you think they are old IC numbers can you explain why the IC is not in sequence based on DOB
31 dec 1914- xxx 4589
15 dec 1920 – xxx 4789
13 June 1930- xxx 4489
21 apr 1940 – xxx 4389
Those born earlier seems to have a higher number.
Btw can you email me a copy of his IC that shows the number 300xxxx is on his IC.
No. Military ID do not carry prefix T. Is your father IC starts with 300 as I was informed that 300xxxx is restricted to military officers
His number is 3007xxx.
If he is in the 80′s than you say that it is 3007xxx than it doesn’t make any sense especially if you compare the number with those with bakerah which is also in the 80s and she has a lower number than your father.
I think we can confirm this once and for all if you can email me a copy of your old IC
I believe 3007 indicates locality. The digits after that are then running numbers.
He is in Johor but I dont have a copy of his new or old IC number.
There’s a typo – he is 70+ and not 80
BTW, he is now 80+ years old and still votes
and he is not a “phantom” yet
PS – this is what I got from wikipedia:
“In Malaysia, a 12-digit number (format: YYMMDD-SS-###G, since 1991) known as the National Registration Identification Card Number (NRIC No.) is issued to citizens and permanent residents on a MyKad. Prior to January 1, 2004, a separate social security (SOCSO) number (also the old IC number in format ‘S#########’, S denotes state of birth or country of origin (alphabet or number), # is a 9-digit serial number) was used for social security-related affairs.
The first group of numbers (YYMMDD) are the date of birth. The second group of numbers (SS) represents the place of birth of the holder – the states (01-13), the federal territories (14-16) or the country of origin (60-85) [6]. The last group of numbers (###G) is a serial number in an unidentified pattern which is randomly generated. The last digit (G) is an odd number for a male, while an even number is given for a female.”
Kudos Doc!
Well done! We really need you, people from military to confirm it is not Bersih.
“UMNO harapkan ex-servicemen, ex-servicemen makan padi”
It is computer errors not human faults! We will appoint foreign consultants to fix the software problem.
check this ic no doc: 5962350
one name, one ic, with two voting addresses
you have to use the semakan isi rumah page http://daftarj.spr.gov.my/semakdm/test.asp
if you use the original semakan daftar pemilih, only 1 name will appear
http://daftarj.spr.gov.my/NEWDAFTARJ/DaftarjBM.aspx
iridian, I did a check on the number, there are two voting addresses – one for parliament and another for ADUN. Location is in Melaka which has both Parliament and ADUN seats.
Can you recheck your search and reconfirm?
See the image I had inserted in the lower part of the post
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It was shocking!!! It was disgusting!!
EC/government still defend nothing wrong with the electoral roll.
We need a thorough audit investigation on the electoral roll to see the extend of the dirt or cheating.
Dr,
Come to think of it, something was high lighted few years back….
1. Remembered my old laminated IC, ( in exchange for new credit card type IC), was NOT DESTROYED or RENDERED VOID on the spot at the NRD counter.
2. When queried why not, the counter staff mentioned that the Dept. would do it later. She just put the surrendered IC into a cartoon box with other old ICs. Asked her what would happen if said ICs were taken by someone else for whatever purpose, she replied … tak mungkin.or words to that effect.
3. Now, In the case of passports (renewal of expired ones), the old passports are rendered void by cutting off the corner and said document given back to the holder. Why didn’t NRD followed such simple security measure ?
Question – is NRD still practising the ” surrendered but destroy later ” approach ?
If yes, goldmine of surrendered ICs to be used by …. you know lah !
(Btw, NRD is under En HalEhwal Rumah who is from OhNO ..)
Now here’s another loophole… recent announcement reported in MSM. Anyone who lost their Mykads don’t have to make a police report. Apply direct to NRD.
Implications ? Use your imaginations, lah !
Talk about just the tip of the iceberg !!
Hope the above feedback is of some use.
Cheers.
I think you got it wrong this time doc. The IC no may not be of serving officers as theirs will have a T in front of the no. These are old IC no and it runs in sequence whereby a series of it will show people from the same state.
Try out your old ic and then try one number before or after and see the result.
I still think a lot of hanky panky is going on in the SPR. During the 2000 GE a list was complied on army votes where addition of a 0 in front of the number yields the same name but a different polling station.
Dear I Munafik
I hope you would consider choosing a better name.
Anyway I took your advice and inserted the letter T infront of the number. Guess what. More shocking.The name of officers that appears on the SPR search web does not tally with the officers that I know.
LMAO!
I agree with you, Doc.
plain despicable….
Dear Dr. Rafick,
I call this shit. But the EC and the government says it is all right. I suggest you post your article to all the mainstream media, and let’s see which media takes up your article. I believe none will print your article. Now, Rafick, let’s march to the EC and meet the commissioner himself to show him the discrepancies. If you need an escort, I’ll volunteer.
Kena pakai baju kuning atau no4
Dr,
You have my email. If you and Pak Arshad are going to EC, I wanna come along too.
Thanks.
If we go, I will bring along a hamper containing berus dawai, chlorox, soap powder and other cleaning tool
Maybe that will help them “BERSIH” their rolls Warm Regards, Dr Mohd Rafick
Gosh you are hinting that they don’t do enough sanitise, this would kick off their procurement to start buying dozens of rm1,000 per piece berus, rm5,000 per bottle chlorox, rm10,000 per pack soap powder and might further sub contract a 5 million cleaning job to a RM2 paid up Chong & Ali Sama Sama Kaya Enterprise.
Dr,
Tried ….
http://daftarj.spr.gov.my/semakdm/test.asp
Entered my IC no. – Name and Address .. for voting stations.
It does’t show the rest of the family (4 other registered voters) in same address .
Thought the system was just enter the address and the list of registered voters of said address will be displayed, No ?
If kena masuk individual IC (whom we don’t know), how to determine Phantoms using my address ?
Bit confused …maybe tak faham system.
Any clarification, Dr ?
Try here http://daftarj.spr.gov.my/semakdm/test.asp
Your link same as mine high lighted, lah.
Tried again … result ame as before.
Dr. try senderi, lah. Mana ada ruang untuk input alamat ??
Apa technologi sistem ini ???
Yaakkkk !
Typo error …result same (not ame) as before.
We cannot check by address. Only SPR can do it internally
Warm Regards, Dr Mohd Rafick
I just did. Please tell me if I am wrong. If my civilian IC is 5500419 then T5500419 should be my military IC if I do join the army. But this is what I have found :
T5500419
SURITA BINTI ABDUL GANI
581225115131 (5500419)
IBRAHIM BIN ABDULLAH
can someone clarify ?
Dear Amus
It does not work that way.
Prior to join the army, you may have a civlian IC number. When you join the army, that number is no longer used. The army will issue new numbers. The officers will start with 300XXXX. The non officers will start with different set of numbers..
When you retire from the army, your military ID will be taken back and new IC will be issued to you. They will issue a totally new number which is different from the civilian IC number that you had prior to join the army and different with the ID number that you had. You will have a totally set of new number. That is how it is practiced when I was in the service.
Btw, the prefix T is NOT on the military ID
Dr,
Back to basic.
1. When you joined ATM as a doctor, were you issued a BAT/C/10 ?
Dr Rafick- yes
2. Take out your MyKad , and just check what is recorded on the REVERSE side.
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How many ID numbers are there (below the signature of Ketua Pengarah) ?
Dr Rafick- two numbers. One is a number before I joined the army and the second is my military ID. I keyed into SPR system both numbers. No result. My BAT C10 do not have T and I checked with friends currently serving and confirmed that theirs also don’t have T prefix. However I note that on my IC there is T place there. Never realize it before
List them here as exactly shown.
Until then, no further comment.
Doctor, if you were to put in your number with the “T” do you get any response from SPR website?
No Warm Regards, Dr Mohd Rafick
Dr,
just only checked…. Amus is right !
1. T5500419 – KD Pelandok, Pengkalan TLDM Lumut,Pangkor.
2. 5500419 – Lot 101, Kuantan.
Jeezzz ..how deep down does it go, nation wide ????
Thanks a lot Doc. For the info!
Last State election some BN idiots came to the house and wanted IC nos. I said thanks and that I could check myself. Being a cuckoo he got annoyed and expressed he couldn’t understand why I didn’t want to. Annoyed I told him off and said that people were going around for IC nos and got some money for each they got.
This instance cannot be absolutely confirmed to be an unethical practice but it illustrates the care one has to exercise and the peril upon discovery.
The most sinister is the possibility of historical voting trends maintained by BN due to the possession of IC numbers. Say you voted for BN last time and there was this nice guy going round and giving you slips purportedly for convenience of where and when. Once they got your IC no. that’s it! It’s irrelevant who you voted most recently with a change of mind!!!
Why? Why? Why? Must this happen? Possibly because of SPR’s integrity and rampant corruption within !!!
Apa diharap padi di seberang
Entah dimakan burung kolibiri merah dadu
Eee See sudah dipunyai orang
BERSIH sahajalah tempat mengadu