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My first write up on the above subject receives a myriad of comment. Sometime I find it is difficult to address my commentator when they failed to appreciate why writing in totality especially when they start focusing on words or a line or a para to illustrate my point. I accept this as my weakness of failing to write clearly so that my readers understand my point.
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As explained by Prof Azmi Sharom the Malays being the majority population in the Peninsular Malaysia. Overall they may be majority but once fragmented along the lines of election boundaries, the situation may reverse in some places. In fact if we looked at Hulu Selangor, a Malay candidate (Zaid Ibrahim) lost to an Indian because the Malay in the Felda is chose not to vote Malay. In a way, Mahathir is right because the Malays was split, Zaid Ibrahim, a Malay lost because the Malays were not united but I suspect Mahathir was not complaining. He was probably happily grinning from ear to ear when he was told of the result that a Malay lost in Hulu Selangor!
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Being an overall majority, it is time that the Malays in this country start thinking for what is good for the nation and their children. I know many would not like what I am about to say but by being a fragmented majority, it is important than they exercise their rights intelligently. It is important to educate the voters that voting a flag or a logo does not do any justice as it is not the flag that is going to work for the people. It is the elected individual.
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We need to educate our children and grandchildren on the importance of electing an individual with strong character that place the nation and the public interest above personal interest. If everyone appreciate that building nationhood is important, then we need to evaluate the policies that our present leaders put in place.
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I have taken some position on the matter related to education. My principle is that vernacular school is bad for the country but for the sake of international competitiveness and harmony within the country all citizen must learn Tamil, Mandarin alongside BM and English. Our school should have done that for the last 50 years. This is my position but unfortunately the elected Malays on both side of the political divide do not want to put a stand on this matter as a matter of political convenience. In fact (in general) the Chinese community continue to use education as a bargaining tool and chose not to elect a principle and good candidate.
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In the matter of healthcare in this country, Najib is now introducing 1Care. I am not privy to the details of this scheme but from what I have collected so far, primary care in the government hospitals will be expanded to the GPs. This mean my mum can go to a nearest GP and check her Blood Sugar and BP to collect her medicine instead on queuing up at a MOPD for hours and see a different doctor every time. This is good but I cannot fully endorse it just yet as I don’t have the full information about 1Care especially with regards to the details of payments.
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I want to know more about equitable healthcare delivery and cost efficiency that goes into it to ensure that health care cost is managed optimally. Right now, the government is paying too much for drugs and non clinical operations in the hospitals. Many of the services are given to crony companies with lopsided deals. This is not good for the nation.
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In fact it is the failure of the leaders of this country that led the nation to have a mountain of debt. It is the failure of our leaders that the people of this nation continue to be divided and recognise themselves as Malays, Chinese, Indian and Others. Why is that? Isn’t it because the people chose to vote that they hardly know and in fact had voted a flag and a logo? We better start choosing the right Malaysian for the sake our children and their children.
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June 20, 2010 by Dr R@28
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I read with interest the debate of whether one should preferably vote for an individual candidate or the political party (flag/logo) he or she represents. It will be a debate with no clear cut and correct answer.
In the Malaysian political scenario, voting for a candidate, other than an independent candidate ( before he becomes a frog and a deserter ) is no different than voting for a political party ( Parties when his/her party is in a coalition ) and what it stand for. It is simply because he is supposed to represent and support his/her political party’s ideology and stance on any issue. Otherwise he/she would/should not stand on that political platform to stand for election.
Maverick politicians would find themselves without an existing political party in no time. In some of such instances they become independents after you have voted them in as a party’s representative!
So in reality would such candidates be able to serve their constituency effectively? I would say, certainly not in the larger scheme of things.
The other reality of our election is this : Do we really have the choice of the candidate/s we want to vote for? The 1,2, 3 or 5 candidates standing may not be what we want at all. That may explain why many Malaysians choose not to vote at all?
In other words, the good Dr’s emphasis on “the importance of electing an individual with strong character that places the nation’s and the public’s interest above personal interest. ” is a choice that you are highly unlikely to have at all.
MyKantree: “It is simply because he is supposed to represent and support his/her political party’s ideology and stance on any issue. Otherwise he/she would/should not stand on that political platform to stand for election.
Maverick politicians would find themselves without an existing political party in no time. In some of such instances they become independents after you have voted them in as a party’s representative!
So in reality would such candidates be able to serve their constituency effectively? I would say, certainly not in the larger scheme of things”
Is it possible to take into consideration that DAP for example, other than when issues involved
1. Party policies\
2. Manifesto give before an election
their elected candidates are able to vote according to conscience
(I will now take the trouble to find out if the other PR components have similar provisions. For those who want to explore this issue further, refer to DAP whip not in force all the time
as compared with BN – whip in force at all time, no exception.
Voters who take the trouble will read what DAP policies and Manifesto before they vote so they know what they are voting for
Sharir is a principal and real politican who care about the rakyat. Un fortunately, with UMNO, he is just a toothless tiger.
A principal politican like him, will only end uo as a sad person in UMNO. Since the majority of UMNO are keen of dollar sign but this guy do not agree with the majority of UMNO. So, what can done by him? Nothing. His name is famous and always in rakyat mind, but he is not even a minister………and more worse….even with minister post, he is still a single voice among the UMNO contractorssss.
Sharir got only 1 way out, out from UMNO, he can serve better for the rakyat.
UMNO or BN, I will never give my vote to them……until BN is down from Putrajaya.
Great minds think alike. I am with you on this.
Peter
I had observed that you are quite opinionated. Although I do agree with you to a certain extend, there is always exception to the rule.
You are so adamant and your perseverance or advocating for MP to vote against party whip and in the interest of the nation and the public is correct. Such practices may be good in develop countries where mindset and their culture of these leaders are way far more advance than our local counterparts.
Here, we still bodek our datuks with our submissive and clannish mindsets. Though it is good to see some (leaders) stood up to speak their mind. Sometimes, it is better to be a team player. Pakatan is currently suffering from this. There are a few personalities trying to be a ‘hero’. Thus, in doing so had caused damaged to its partners. If they have a view, they should iron it out first with their team and/or their partners. These so-called ‘heros’ always deemed that their views are ALWAYS correct. What a bunch of crap!
Citing an example, “when asked on why France was defeated by Mexico, one player explained that it was because France got a lot of great (international famous) players, but we failed as a team. The operative word is TEAM, not individual.” To win, it takes a Team. We are no longer living in the world of Hang Tuah; where great warriors were worshipped upon.
There is a big difference between ‘individual initiative’ and ‘collective effort’.
opinionated: “Holding stubbornly and often unreasonably to one’s own opinions”
So tell me how was I unreasonable? That holding to the opinion that at this point of time, the best way out from our advanced state of decay is to put a new government in Putrajaya by making sure the coalition most likely to bring real reform and voting out UMNO/BN which will not willingly reform?
So Pakatan team is not up to par? Is the UMNO/BN team good enough for you? Ask anyone and they can tell you it was not easy to get candidates to stand as then opposition candidate, so we have to give a little leeway to Pakatan and pray with the change in the political climate post March 08 that they will have a greater pool to choose from and that they will do a better job of selection candidates.
opinionated? Perhaps. But I believe if cogent reasons are put forward why my opinion is wrong, I believe I am capable of changing my opinion. So tell me what is wrong with my opinion.
Shahrir perhaps would be the best UMNO MP that one can use as example of why we should consider individual uprightness and not vote along party line. But tell me did Shahrir did a sterling job of upholding and defending the Constitution those past years he had been an MP?
Convince me I am wrong. I am willing to listen.
And for Dr. Rafick. I had alluded to the state Malaysia is currently in as cancer needing surgery. Dr. Rafick should know as a Doctor that when surgery is performed, good cells will be cut out together with the cancerous cell. Collateral damage, the better candidate unfortunately need to be removed because of wrong association.
In any case, while doing research, found some posts of a photo of Shahrir posing with Saiful and some uncomplimentary remarks but not sure what is the issue. Dr. Rafick said Azmin don’t respond to his email/SMS? Try getting Shahrir to respond and see how promt the response come.
If we listen to the good doctor and vote for “principled candidate”, then change will never happen in Malaysia.
He says there are bad people in Pakatan too. Sure, where in the world can you find good people in any institution or even in a family.
In politics we vote on principles, for a program , for honest administration, for justice and fairness, for equality. Not for thieves and robbers.
Just look at the state of the police, the judiciary, the civil service and the corrupt UMNO which has squandered million of our money.
And doctor says he will vote for principled candidate in BN.
Did Shahrrir speak up for those murdered by the police or C4 for the powers, for the Perak power grab.
By and large there are more principled man in Pakatan. The black sheep are very few which is something inevitable.
I tend to agree with you that we should look at the candidate when exercising our vote. But how many of the candidates can stand up to their political masters? Except for Zaid Ibrahim and a handful of others, I do not see this happening. Like Peter said, when BN cracks the whip, all their MPs will fall into the line. So, will we be wasting our votes if these candidates simply vote along party lines even when they do not agree to what the party is doing?
In view of this, I would rather vote for the party whose policies are more in line with what I thought would be best for the country.
BT
That is a fair approach considering that all ruling party will have their own whip policy.
Many people dont realize that usually any ruling party do not discuss matters in parliament among its MP’s. They discuss it outside prior to being tabled in Parliament. Once they have a better understanding and give their feedback, then only the matter will be discussed in parliament. The reason why ALL ruling government does this is to avoid the opposition from claiming mileage. The same is being practice in Penang and Selangor at the moment.
I’ve been saying this: “If the Malays regard Malaysia as belonging to the Malays; then their prime concern should be to look after their Motherland. Instead their cries are like infants “gimme me more milk; take the milk away from non-Melayu pendatangs, gimme gimme gimme; it’s MINE”!
Meanwhile the productive tax-paying non-Malay is wondering whether to keep on being the golden goose, each time threathened with a May 13 slaughter if the golden eggs are not laid and given?
If Malays cannot put their Motherland FIRST; then they might as well be ready for the day when their grandchildren will be exported as maids. Bad management by Marcos caused this for Filipinas; Suharto for Indonesia..made the projection for Malaysia.
My Malay friends; it’s not the non-Malays who threathen you; it’s te unscrupulous politicians who keep you crippled, relying on crutches and hobble 70% of Malaysia’s population; thereby retarding this country from it’s potential greatness! If Malaysians had focused on making Malaysia great, how in the world could it not have far outstripped Singapore? It would have been the preeminent SEA country!
Dr. Rafick, you said do research. I did try and my efforts yielded this post Why vote against UMNO BN – example Shahrir Samad where some points mentioned here were repeated.
However what I had put forward in the above post after doing some searching was in the case where Shahrir resigned, recontested and won, the circumstances surrounding this was more a tussle for power between Mahathir and UMNO Baru and Tengku Razaleih and Semangat 46 and not directly public or nation interest.
For the close one eye case, what I found was only Shahrir walked out and gave a press conference but could not find memtion as to whether he stayed for the vote or abstained. I am more concentrating of voting rather than just statements.
Noyawns,
There are already a good 50% of Malays who do not subscribe to the gerrymandering Umnoputras, who since under TDM machiavellian rule has brought this country into a corrupt, rent seeking and patronage government. Do not deny non-Malays, the Chinese Taikos and gangsters have benefitted a lot from BN rule . As if the geese can lay golden eggs without opportunities given/taken , notwithstanding that it could be through blood, sweat and tears.
We need to push opposition Malay voters to the 70% mark to change the government and non-Malay voters must likewise do their part in not voting BN.
It is the Chinese Taikos, black money from underground activities that had been funding BN and if these political lobbyists are not curtailed the fight for a change would be tough.
Stop blaming only one race, please . Malays being the biggest consumers could have changed the landscape of the country if they had not been tolerant , had not accepted other races as Malaysians, not live and work , and not share the bounty of this country together. Sure, non-Malays out of neccessity benefited the most through their hardwork and the majority Malays being marginalised by their own Malay leaders were left behind.
It is the current BN leaders who should be in the firing line. We, the rakyat must decide and we would have only ourselves to blame if we do not vote wisely in PRU13.
Ak
Well said.. especially “We, the rakyat must decide and we would have only ourselves to blame if we do not vote wisely in PRU13″
AK,
,,,unfortunately, politics has become a ‘blame game’ in this country too !. No one is taking the responsibilities or accountabilities that goes with it….eeerrrmm…sakit.
,,,bloody arseholes as leaders as such the poor rakyat is covered from head to toe with their dirty shit. Am sick of it.
,,,a BIG clean-up is long over due via GE 13 from the looks of it.
…Indeed ALL malaysian must face this head-on and vote wisely plus to make/take the change bravely-lah. Tak kira bangsa atau ugama kita…dirty politicians must be removed from their seats. Bukan perkara main main lagi, our children’s and nation future is at stake. Its NOW or never.
….lets all unite as true malaysian. Say “NO” to racialism and don’t get carried away with empty promises from corrupted politicians.
Salam muhibah to all.
AK & others – chill.
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I meant no offence to Malays or to lay the blame for this mess at the door of Malays – what I was trying to say is that Malaysia can pick itself up and change only if enough Malays want this change (you’ve put it down as 70% of Malays supporting the opposition – in which case it would no longer be an opposition, no?
I agree that largely Malays are accomodating, kind and nice – the flip side of this has always been their reluctance to hold its leaders, rulers and elders accountable and confront them.
But the point I reiterate is that Malaysia can only change it’s destructive course if the majority of Malays wish it to be. They will then rule righteously, doing what’s good for the country (note I did not say for the race), making Malaysia competitive, with riches enough to support and aid its needy (watever the race) – so I hope many more Malaysians follow this thot.
May the Malays rise up (and not in the traditional UMNO/Kerismuddin way!) and do what’s right for MALAYSIA! Can?
Dear Doctor,
“importance of electing an individual with strong character that place the nation and the public interest above personal interest. ” (may I add above party interest)
I invite you to see how BN representatives vote in Share swap fiasco: PBS challenged to support White Paper. Let us see if PBS has the courage to vote according to public interest and above party interest and hope you begin to see what I have tried hard to put to you but don’t seem to be making headway.
Peter
You and I are not talking about the same thing. For one, you are implying I am against PR and pro BN. You are also indirectly suggesting that ALL PR rep is straight and good. Sorry to disappoint you. As mentioned earlier we have so many candidates from PR that has become Pro BN independent. This include those from PKR as well as DAP. This people who jumped ship further strengthen my point on the need to choose the right individuals. What kind of values that this candidates from PR have.
I am talking about individuals and not party. Right now both side of the political fence has many weak and unsuitable characters.
Sorry Doctor, my response to this comment had somehow ended up as reply to pelangisenja.
dr,
,,,time is running out and GE 13 is just around the corner too. Can we list out the suitable candidates or just the list of the unsuitable characters ?.
,,,Plus to help get on board the potential responsible candidates ?.
,,,in fact, its even better if we can help identify the new PM.
The present character is indeed a character by any standard i.e. of nil standard unfortunately. Just good for figure 11.
drrafick,
I agree this write up is fair and food for thought.
No Doctor, we are on the same subject other than your post title refers specifically to Malay. Your contention is to not vote according to party and to consider solely the quality of the candidate. My point is Malaysia at this point of time needs surgery for spreading cancer and while we should consider merits of individual candidates, we are facing exceptional time and priority at this moment and we should let PR at least one go at governing the country and making things right. I buttress my argument by referring to the rigid BN whip which is applied all the time, no exception which leaves no room for a BN representative to represent the interest of his constituency and public.
At no point in time did I ever said all PR are angels. I said at this point in time we have to trust PR to chose their candidates for the next election properly.
You seemed to know lots about Sharir, so it will be easy for you to tell us in which instances in the Parliament he has voted against party whip and in the interest of the nation and the public. If what I think is true, other than that time he could not get along with Mahathir, he I believe had voted as per party whip all the time including the 2 issues I mentioned in previous comments. You know more about Sharir so I wait for you to prove me wrong.
Reason why I mentioned Sharir is basically to illustrate why as long as BN whip is applied all the time, we should never vote BN candidate because he is handcuffed and not able to represent the nation public interest.